Monday, May 18, 2015

Podcast #37 - S2E15 - Lost and Found

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Cordia's Review of S2E15 - Lost and Found

Lost and Found
Season 2, Episode 15
Original airing: February 26, 2002

My Rating: 79

The Good:
You gotta love an episode that focuses heavily on our two favorite Stars Hollow bachelors. The conflict between Luke and Jess is extremely interesting and I love this aspect of Luke that wants to make a nice home but has no idea how to do it in a traditional manner.

Luke’s apartment hunting story was excellent. He needs a lot of Lorelai’s help which leads to some excellent scenes including their pretend marriage with the real estate agent. This was a cruel wink from the show and, man, did I want them to sell that story with a kiss!

The twist of Taylor owning the building was quite clever. We already know he owns Doose’s Market (S1E1) and the video store (S2E12), so it’s not a far stretch to believe he’s also quietly and systematically purchased ten apartment buildings around town. And Taylor was the perfect person to drive Luke completely over the edge and into a willingness to buy a building himself. This is such a great solution because now we can expand the set of Luke’s apartment and still have him around the diner all the time for story purposes. And it led to the final scene of Luke wielding a sledge hammer, which was wonderful on a variety of levels (See Favorite Moment).

We also got not one, but two Luke rants in this episode. That alone is a cause for celebration!

The second main story of Rory’s missing bracelet was also pretty well handled. Her continuing interactions with Jess just get cuter and more interesting. Her inability to explain her feelings or relationship with him to her mother or Jess’ face was very interesting. Rory makes an adorable fumbler, especially when she’s normally so good at articulating. Jess’ smile after her comments to him was perfect.

I really liked the scenes with Jess and Lorelai attempting to get along. It was wonderfully awkward and a great showcase for how much Jess actually likes Rory. Of course, Lorelai will take her daughter’s request seriously, but it takes a huge amount of willingness for a surly teenage boy to attempt to interact with a mother.

I appreciated that we seem to learn here that Jess did not know the importance of the bracelet when he kept it in S2E13 – A’Tisket, A’Tasket. I questioned if he knew the bracelet was from Dean and was keeping it for that express purpose. It just seemed awkward that he wouldn’t give it back when Rory was only a few feet away during his discovery. But having him return it immediately in this episode once he learns its origins seems to indicate he wasn’t aware of its special meaning to Rory. Again, this highlights his feelings for her. In the end, he would rather she’s happy to have the bracelet back than to keep it from her because it’s from Dean.

Lorelai finding Jess coming out of Rory’s room was a great example of organic drama. Her assumption that he returned the bracelet is completely reasonable and spot on. It puts them back on old footing which likely means no more cute Chinese food scenes, but it does allow for Jess to plant the seed of doubt in Lorelai’s head about Rory and Dean’s relationship. It’s a very good question – how did Rory not notice the bracelet missing for two weeks if she normally never takes it off? I’ll give Dean a pass since it seems Rory has been wearing a lot of long sleeves in the cold weather, but Rory should have noticed by now.

On the Dean side, we’re back to Good Boyfriend Dean, who I like much better than Whiny, Jealous Dean. It’s a special man who will sit and wait for his girlfriend for two hours, regardless of what the activity is she’s pursuing. It was really sweet of him to suggest she keep looking even when he obviously wants to go. And I thought his reaction to her missing bracelet was fine. If she normally wears it every day and has done so since he gave it to her, its missing presence would be a mild cause for concern. He doesn’t seem worried about the implication that might exist to their relationship if she took it off, he just seems concerned that it might be lost. And he calms down pretty quickly.

Two other great little scenes were Miss Patty’s night-time cardio walking class (which she presides over from a golf cart) and Michel’s snarky comments after ruining his suit to look for the bracelet. Last episode had Michel helping the girls and complaining about them at the same time as well. I like this trend because it’s nice to see someone on the show who doesn’t fall over himself to make Lorelai’s life easier. More Michel is fine by me.

The Bad:
I found Lorelai overbearing in some parts of this episode in her interactions with Luke. Going up to his apartment to demand he come down and make her special pancakes is a weird abuse of their relationship. He’s supposed to be cooking in the diner at all times when she arrives? Apparently he’s never allowed to have down time if Lorelai is hungry! I’m sure this isn’t actually what she’s supposed to be thinking, but it came across that way to me. It’s awkward to storm in to a friend’s home and demand he switch to his other role in your life of food preparer. I’ve never noticed their dual relationship before but this struck me as a weird moment of their friendship and their proprietor/customer relationship intersecting. The main point is, I thought she was being really irritating.

I also really didn’t like her “I know what’s best for you” attitude when she finds him in the diner watching his tiny TV. Sure, it seems like he could use more space for himself and Jess, but Lorelai isn’t really suggesting he think about it or make that decision on his own. She instantly demands he move to a new apartment. Her tone and phrasing are way too strong. And this demand isn’t something minor. She’s telling him flat out that he needs to move out of a place he already seems to own (the show seems to have implied to me that his father left him the building) to take on a whole new monthly rent which will be several hundred dollars at a minimum. That doesn’t really seem like helping.

Finally, a small moment that bothered me as a rewatch reviewer – I’ve made many complaints in my reviews and on the podcast that Dean is an inconsistent character with contrasting presentation. He’s often spoken of in lofty tones by other characters on the show and then demonstrates rather unlikeable traits including jealousy and inflexibility. Lorelai’s line about Dean’s track record showing he’ll be ok with the fact that Rory lost the bracelet is the highlight of this on-going annoyance. As a viewer, I’m wondering what track record she’s been seeing because based on my observations he’s going to blow up, yell, storm off, and forever hold this over Rory’s head.

Favorite Moment:
Luke’s journey to finding more living space was culminated beautifully when he smashes the wall down in the apartment with a sledgehammer and repeats Jess’ line about holding hands and skipping afterwards while “What a Wonderful World” plays in the background. Luke doesn’t have to move, he’s circumvented Taylor’s plans, and he’s one up on Jess. It is a wonderful world!

The Bottom Line:

This episode had two really strong, well-presented stories with some great additional character moments. While I found some of Lorelai’s bits to be too strong, that’s really a minor quibble in an overall greatly enjoyable episode.

Célèste's Review of S2E15 "Lost and Found"

“Lost and Found"
Season 2, Episode 15
Original airing: February 26, 2002

My Rating: 70

The Good:
  • It's great to see Lorelai and Jess struggle to give each other a chance. I especially like the detail that Luke thinks it would be great if Jess and Rory got together.
  • Taylor's slowly buying up the town.
  • Luke doesn't use the word vibe.
  • Miss Patty.
  • Luke breaking down the wall is a classic Triumphant Luke moment. Let's make another doll. 
  • Jess is very charming here. I like him noticing Rory's hair and making an effort with Lorelai. 
The Bad:
  • Time has once again gone crazy in Stars Hollow.
    • Everyone is wearing coats and gloves even though two episodes ago it was spring.
    • Jess says he needs to be at Lorelai's in 20 minutes. Well, it takes 2 minutes to walk there, so you're fine.
    • Rory spends 2 hours at the book sale, sees a 2 hour movie with Dean, and then rents another 2 hour movie with Dean (at least 6 hours) but still has time to search everywhere in town before the sun goes down.
    • Lorelai goes to work at some point in there. She leaves during her shift and then goes home instead of going back to the inn. Couldn't she have just gone to the inn to look for the bracelet instead of trying to fit a work day into this day that's already too long?
  • Things are also overly complicated again when Rory takes off to look again after talking to Jess, and then comes into the house saying she's been through town again. A lot of time could have been saved if she'd just gone straight to her bedroom.
  • The scene at the book sale does a good job (mostly) of showing that there might be some trouble in paradise, but it's overshadowed by Dean's overreaction to the missing bracelet, which is weird. So is his transition to proposing a compromise for the afternoon. Why does he always pull her two feet away from where they're standing? So awkward. 
Favorite Moment:
Jess is amused as Rory backtracks, "I don't mean like like."

The Bottom Line:
Apart from some awkwardness, this is a great episode all about the complicated relationships between four of the best characters. Everything fits together pretty seamlessly, and there's lots of humor. 

Tuesday, May 12, 2015

Podcast #36 - S2E14 - It Should've Been Lorelai

Hello! Welcome to Return to Stars Hollow - a spoiler-free, retrospective podcast about Gilmore Girls! This is the podcast for Season 2, Episode 14 - It Should've Been Lorelai.

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Cordia's Review of S2E14 - It Should've Been Lorelai

It Should've Been Lorelai
Season 2, Episode 14
Original airing: February 12, 2002

My Rating: 63

The Good:
This was a very interesting episode with the introduction of Christopher’s eager girlfriend, Sherry. Early in the episode, I found her pretty overbearing (The Bad), but mostly I thought she was a good fit. I really liked Rory’s dish about Sherry. I felt her comments about Sherry being ready to marry and knowing what she wanted in a family explained some of her rush to get to know Rory. If she wants to marry Christopher and begin having children soon, I applaud her for making strides to include Rory in that life. I kind of wish we had heard it from Sherry though.

I really liked Christopher and Lorelai’s conversation at the Jeep about including each other in their lives when they find new romantic partners. With Rory as a connecting link, it’s important for them to know about major developments and Christopher had a solid point about Lorelai’s relationship with Max. This guy was on the verge of being Rory’s stepfather before Christopher knew he existed. While I can see not inviting an ex to the wedding, not even telling him was a step too far. On the other side, I supported Lorelai basically demanding to be involved with Sherry if Rory is going to be involved with Sherry. That was good.

Emily’s freak out at the Friday Night Dinner was excellent. Her unsubtle jabs were right in line with her anger and I can understand her being upset that a girlfriend has swooped in and “stolen” Rory for the night. Obviously some dreams have been shattered for Emily and I found it completely believable that she would dump it all on Lorelai. It wasn’t the right thing to do, but it fit the moment and the character.

I am of two minds about the end of the storyline. I thought Lorelai was being incredibly self-centered to tell Christopher she’s been waiting for him to clean up his act for 15 years so they could be together. I was really proud of Christopher for telling her off there. She is basically dumping 15 years of romantic trouble in his lap and saying if he had manned up earlier their lives would have been so much better. But only she is responsible for her happiness and good on Christopher for telling her as much.

In other news, I loved the debate storyline. Paris’ over preparation was right on target. Her character is one of the most consistent on the show and while she’s a bit over the top, it’s still quite believable. I think this is largely because her motivations are consistent and her reactions are almost predictable. For example, it was easy to guess that the return of Brad would please Paris so she could crush him in to the ground. And her sudden anger at Rory not wanting to stay and do a pro/con of the transcript was great. It was sad to see that she didn’t seem to have anyone else, including her nanny, at the debate to celebrate with her.

Brad’s return was really good. It was entertaining in a sad way to see him conversing rather comfortably with Rory until Paris made her presence known. His continuing decline throughout the debate was very well done.

Finally, I thought Lane’s storyline was a nice diversion. She’s under virtual house arrest after hiding her pseudo-relationship with Henry from her mother. Stalking Rory via the phones around town was extremely entertaining. And I loved the CD drop with Kirk as the distraction and poor Michel as the runner. After jogging around the square for over an hour and feeling quite tortured by Lorelai “forgetting” to mention the time change, his comment to Rory of “you are your mother’s child” was amazingly on point. Brilliant.

The Bad:
It’s nice that Sherry recognizes she’s being too forceful, but it doesn’t stop it from seeming very weird. And I really don’t like her asking Lorelai to get Rory out of Friday Night Dinner for a non-emergency.

Lorelai saying “Should it have been me?” to Rory about Christopher was bizarre. I thought this was a weird, over vulnerable moment for her and I’m not even sure why it was there when the show skipped right past it by having Rory get distracted and run out the door.

Finally, as I said above in The Good, I didn’t like Lorelai dumping all of her romantic woes on Christopher’s head. This was an extremely self-centered thing for Lorelai to do. I found it unbelievable that she would think sharing this information with him would make him happy.

Favorite Moment:
I really did like the moment when Michel is talking to Rory after running around the square for an hour to do the CD drop. Their small conversation is very entertaining.

The Bottom Line:
I thought this was a very interesting introduction for Christopher’s girlfriend. I found Sherry to be over the top, but her interest in a relationship with Rory speaks volumes about her relationship with Christopher. What I enjoyed most was the conversations that stemmed from Sherry’s arrival between Christopher, Lorelai, and Emily. The reactions to Christopher finally “moving on” were very interesting. I also greatly enjoyed both secondary storylines. Paris and Lane’s stories were both really well done and gave both women small moments to shine in their craziness. However, despite all of this, it felt like something was missing in this episode to make it really great.

Célèste's Review of S2E14 "It Should've Been Lorelai"

“It Should've Been Lorelai"
Season 2, Episode 14
Original airing: February 12, 2002

My Rating: 64

The Good:
  • The introduction of Sherry is strong. The character appears fully formed and unlike some characters (*cough*Dean*cough*), she is entirely consistent with with how others describe her. 
  • The Lane plot is fun. I especially enjoyed Michel's part, of course. 
  • Lorelai coming to a major realization about herself is interesting and I like Christopher standing up for himself when she thoughtlessly tells him she's sabotaged her other relationships because she was waiting for him. 
  • The return of Brad was great.
The Bad:
  • Rory summarizing her date with Sherry felt like lazy writing. If they had shown us Sherry's motivations instead of telling us, she would have felt like a more three diminutional character. 
  • It's a little unclear why Christopher is so oblivious to Sherry's awkwardness. It seams like news to him that the kitchen conversation was strange, but he noticed Lorelai making the "Leonard call" so why doesn't he notice what a bad first impression Sherry's making?
Favorite Moment:
Richard goes on and on about gruesome motorcycle accidents while Emily stares daggers at Lorelai

The Bottom Line:
There's nothing particularly bad about this episode, but I didn't love it either. It felt very middle of the road to me.

Monday, May 11, 2015

Podcast Delay

Wrong show, but the sentiment is strong.
Hello, folks! Unfortunately, Celeste and I are having a whole new set of tech problems this week which have made recording difficult. Instead of putting out a sub-par podcast, we are delaying recording to correct the issues. Hopefully the podcast will be live on Wednesday morning. We apologize for the delay!

Thank you,
Cordia and Celeste

Tuesday, May 5, 2015

Podcast #35 - S2E13 - A-Tisket, A-Tasket

Hello! Welcome to Return to Stars Hollow - a spoiler-free, retrospective podcast about Gilmore Girls! This is the podcast for Season 2, Episode 13 - A-Tisket, A-Tasket.

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Cordia's Review of S2E13 - A-Tisket, A-Tasket

A-Tisket, A-Tasket
Season 2, Episode 13
Original airing: February 5, 2002

My Rating: 68

The Good:
Jess is finally making his big move and it seems to be working. Dean is being quite helpful by crossing some boundaries with Lorelai. The set up for the final scene worked quite well.

It’s easy to sympathize with Jess in this episode because he’s presented as clever, thoughtful, and connected to Rory. He knows how to push her buttons to get a smile. And his easy going attitude is contrasted with the worst version of Dean. I find this rather impressive because what Jess is doing is actually kind of despicable. Yes, Dean is being irritating, but he’s still in a relationship with Rory which Jess is actively attempting to undermine. The theft of Rory’s bracelet is also pretty bad, especially since he knows it’s a bracelet Dean gave to her and not just a random trinket. And yet, the show is able to present these things as kind of cute and use them in a way that gets me to like Jess and feel connected to his relationship with Rory.

I loved how the episode tricked Lorelai and Luke in to a mini-pseudo-date. Miss Patty’s meddling was a perfect catalyst for Lorelai to turn to the one man she can trust to buy her basket. Watching them have lunch together in the gazebo was adorable.

This was a fantastic resolution to Lane and Henry’s non-relationship. All of Lane’s manipulations have finally caught up with her and, while I feel sad for her, I appreciated Henry having the courage to cut her loose. He’s a nice guy and deserves more than a double honk drive-by relationship. I also loved how the show used Lane’s self-realizations to reveal the relationship to Mrs. Kim. Her reactions were wonderful. On a more meta note, I liked that Lane’s hidden relationship crumbles as Rory seems to be beginning one with Jess. Nice symmetry.

Finally, Jackson and Sookie are adorable. While I thought Sookie’s ditziness was a little heavy handed, it worked for the two of them. Their fight is simple and makes for a nice subplot. It allowed for a fantastic scene between Jackson and Kirk which really played up and expanded on Kirk’s awkward life history. That was an unexpected note. And, of course, it led to perhaps the simplest, most low-key, yet highly emotional screen proposal I can remember. Beautiful.

The Bad:
I found it strange that Dean seems to be taking Jess’ actions as a personal attack against himself instead of pretty obvious attempts to get close to Rory. But Dean doesn’t seem as concerned about Jess sneaking in to Rory’s affections as he does Jess “getting one over” on him, in a sense. It makes Dean’s anger look out of place and awkward.

But that’s really quite secondary to the persistent issue of Dean’s recurrent jealousy. It’s been worn so thin as a plot device it’s practically see-through. As I’ve said in past reviews, if Dean was meant and understood by other characters to be a jealous guy, this would be fine. I wouldn’t like it, but I’d understand it better. But when he’s continually spoken of as being a wonderful, mature boyfriend for Rory, this kind of behavior just doesn’t work. While he has cause in this episode to be upset, he takes it out on the wrong people – namely, Rory and Lorelai. He’s really shooting himself in the foot and it’s a little too obvious to feel organic.

Favorite Moment:
The final shot of Rory sneaking in to her room to talk to Jess on the phone was excellent. It’s a great comment on their relationship. It’s not often we see Rory hide things from Lorelai and now she’s lying and sneaking to do just that. Their phone call is adorable and the sexual tension is pretty strong. There’s an undeniable connection between them. Everything is interestingly underscored by Jess playing with Rory’s bracelet at the same time. As I mentioned above in The Good, the show does a nice job of using something that should be a jerk move (and honestly a bit creepy) to actually make me like Jess more. Out of context, stealing an emotional piece of jewelry from someone is a crappy thing to do. But here, because it’s Jess who’s in to Rory and the bracelet is from Dean, who’s a jerk to Rory in this episode, it totally works.

The Bottom Line:
This was a highly enjoyable episode about relationships. Some are crumbling while others rise and the whole journey was pretty gripping. While I continue to wish Dean’s character on paper would align more with the presentation in each episode, it didn’t overly detract from my experience this time.

Célèste's Review of S2E13 "A-Tisket, A-Tasket"

“A-Tisket, A-Tasket"
Season 2, Episode 13
Original airing: February 05, 2002

My Rating: 81

The Good:
  • I'm always a fan of episodes that center around a unique town event, and this is one of the best examples, deftly interweaving stories centering on four of our five favorite ladies. 
  • Sookie and Jackson making up and deciding to get married couldn't have be played any better. The was Jackson kisses Sookie in the makeup scene is so great, and her emotion and playful joking in the engagement scene makes it a really memorable moment. 
  • Kirk is particularly funny here, and I love Jackson's, "You better be as pathetic as you sound."
  • Keiko Agena's performance when Henry says he's taking another girl to prom is heartbreaking, and I love Mrs. Kim's "That is not calming down!" and "Are you sure he was Korean?"
  • We finally get to spend some more time exploring Rory and Jess's connection. It's enjoyable to see their chemistry and also to watch the conflicts that it creates. 
  • I'm glad the show focusses on the conflict Jess creates between Rory and Lorelai instead of devoting too much time to Dean stomping around in a huff. It's much more interesting this way and it provides an opportunity for the conflict to be more in line with the show's overarching themes, especially when Emily gets involved. 
The Bad:
  • Overall, this episode was on point throughout, but there were a couple small things that took me out of it.
    • Why are there still so many baskets behind Taylor when he announces that the auction is over?
    • Why was Luke picking carrots out of his salad?
    • Who was that woman Lorelai was talking to and then gave her cup to at the auction? Couldn't they have had her talk to someone we've seen before?
  • I'm kind of confused about the timeline. This episode was released in early February and there's been no explicit mention of a lot of time passing since the last episode, and yet it is quite clearly spring in Stars Hollow now. There are floral garlands all over the center of town and Henry says prom is coming up. What?
  • Although I loved the Lane plot overall, it would have had a better payoff if we'd built up to it more in the past. 
Favorite Moment:
Sookie and Jackson decide to get married 

The Bottom Line:
This is, without questions, one of my favorite episodes of the series so far.

Monday, May 4, 2015

Podcast Delay

Hello! Due to some tech issues with my old laptop, Celeste and I were unable to record the podcast this weekend. We will be recording tonight and the podcast should post tomorrow (Tuesday, May 5th) morning. We apologize for the delay and hope you have a happy Monday without us!

- Cordia