Monday, October 27, 2014

Podcast #13 - S1E12 - Double Date

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Cordia's Review of S1E12 - Double Date

Slightly sneeky Rory is surprisingly adorable.
Double Date
Season 1, Episode 12
Original airing: January 18, 2001

My Rating: 54

The Good:
I think we all expected Sookie and Jackson’s first date to be a trial. The episode did a great job of making them both adorably awkward and nervous. And who hasn’t proposed a double date to try and prevent awkwardness and then have that double date make things so much worse? It was a pretty relatable storyline.

I really liked the pressure Sookie put on herself to make this date awesome. Asking Jackson out to a really fancy place and wearing her hair up in a very complicated (and likely uncomfortable) manner made her even more nervous. But she did what she thought she should do. And it was so nice to see them finally click after settling in at Luke’s and telling Rune to scram. The payoff was well worth the pain.

To make the scene even better, we get some great Lorelai and Luke interaction. Though I still have to wonder if Luke knows about Max, knows about the break up, or just figures Lorelai is fair game as long as there isn’t a ring on her finger. His eyeful of Lorelai and Max kissing in the snow (S1E8 Love & War & Snow) hasn’t cooled his amour at all.

Lane’s double date was possibly worse than Lorelai’s. Todd is pretty much sub-human in his presentation, as Lane describes him at the end of the episode. He has zero opinions about basically anything and I feel bad for Lane that she got in trouble over trying to spend time with such a waste of space. But her outlook is great at the end. At least now she can move on with her affections. I think Lane’s attitude is really good and underlies the moral lesson of being respectful of your parents. She lied to her mom and ended up on a terrible date AND got grounded. For shame.

Speaking of lying, there was a great B plot there with Lorelai and Rory. Rory’s been struggling with her honesty and openness for the entirety of her relationship with Dean. I think it was a very teenager thing to say “I’ll not tell you so you don’t have to lie to Lane’s mom. I’m a good daughter/friend!” Of course, it wasn’t the right answer, but it worked here.

I think Lane and Rory both really did understand they were making poor decisions, but they are teenagers. That’s basically their job. And I liked that they both owned their choices and took responsibility for them. It’s really a great example for young viewers.

The Bad:
This episode did a pretty amazing thing – it made me appreciate Dean as a boyfriend for Rory. He’s not into the matchmaking, but he does it to make Rory happy. During the date, he tries to get Rory to leave Lane and Todd alone so they can get to know each other. And after the date, he doesn’t rub the whole blow-up in Rory’s face. That’s pretty admirable, honestly.

But the best argument for Dean being decent is what the show put him up against. Todd and Rune are by far the most unlikable and irritating characters we’ve seen – including Tristan. Todd is a completely bland human being. I felt so bad for Lane when she was attempting to engage him in conversation. She hit the big three (books, movies, and music) and he had almost nothing to contribute. I don’t think they could have written a more boring teenage boy.

Rune was obviously the writers’ desire to drive the audience up a wall. From his first moment of introduction with that horrified, sneering look on his face to his attempt to get Jackson to blow off Sookie at the end of the date, Rune was a nightmare. It’s practically unbelievable that someone would think Lauren Graham is anything other than spectacularly gorgeous. I could get him being annoyed with her height, but comparing her to a bearded lady? That’s ridiculous.

The problem with Todd and Rune is they are completely unbelievable. Neither has a single redeeming characteristic that we get to see in the episode. They are so unbelievable that it’s impossible to take the storyline seriously. Could we not get people who just don’t click with Lorelai and Lane? Do they have to be moronic jerks? It went beyond entertaining and became irritating very quickly.

Favorite Moment:
I thought it was adorable when Rory kept turning her head around to try and oh-so-subtly spy on Lane and Todd. The shot of Dean turning her face forward again was great.

The Bottom Line:
It was great fun seeing Jackson and Sookie dance around each other, but the episode was completely spoiled by Todd and Rune. The characters were so unlikable and unrealistic that I just couldn't get in to the story. A little annoyance can go a long way.

Célèste's Review of S1E12 "Double Date"

S1E12 "Double Date"


Season 1, Episode 12
Original airing: January 18, 2001

My Rating: 61

The Good:
  •  It’s nice to spend some time with Lane and with Mrs. Kim. I like how fervent she is about the “you break, you buy” rule and how she and Lorelai agree they don’t want their daughters turning out like Lorelai.
  • Seeing Jackson and Sookie giggling in Luke’s is a nice moment. So is the moment when he first sees her all made up.
  • This is the closet we’ve gotten so far to Luke asking Lorelai out, and it’s kind of thrilling to watch.
  • The idea of a short unattractive guy being really turned off by Lorelai is unique and funny, though Rune gets tiresome pretty quickly. I like that Lorelai's ego is saved at the end when she says, "You know the one good thing we all learned from this? That I'm a babe."
The Bad:
  • The overall idea of both Gilmore girls going on double dates on the same night is a little much.
  • The Todd character is funny in moments but overdone in general
  • Ditto Rune. After the initial conceit was established, I just found him annoying, not particularly funny, and I didn’t like how long it took Jackson to stand up to him.
  • There are lots of logical lapses. That pashmina is not a substitute for a coat in January. Why did it take Rory and Lane until the second before they left to discuss not telling Lorelai, and why did it take her until the second after that to ask where they were going when they'd clearly been getting ready to go somewhere? Also, why do Todd and Land have another couple standing between them and Rory and Dean in the line at the movie theatre?
  • The whole going to a French restaurant and then leaving plot is too complicated, and Sookie is a little too frazzled. I like the idea of this whole plot line, but the execution fell short in several places for me. 
Favorite Moment:
Lorelai rants about legs and arms

The Bottom Line:
With all the other great episodes available, this isn't one I'd choose to rewatch. 

Monday, October 13, 2014

Podcast #12 - S1E11 - Paris is Burning

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I know this is what all my break ups look like...
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Cordia's Review of S1E11 - Paris is Burning

Paris is Burning
Season 1, Episode 11
Original airing: January 11, 2001


My Rating: 56

The Good:
This is a well plotted episode. I think it works really well to have Lorelai panic about her relationship and Max realize how unfeasible it is for his chosen profession and current job.

We can presume that Lorelai has not had any truly serious relationships in at least 16 years, so I find it very believable that she would panic when she started to feel too happy. Sookie’s comments hit the nail on the head, but support the overall idea really well.

It’s a poor decision by Lorelai to have the break up conversation in the classroom at Parent’s Day, but I think it suits Lorelai’s state of mind. I know when I’ve been on the verge of a break up, my thought processes are not at their most logical.

The scene in the classroom was very well done. Max is true to his character by trying to actually understand what’s happening and thinking it’s Lorelai being indecisive again (as she’s been their entire relationship). But his final realization that it is a truly poor choice for him to date a student’s parent was long overdue. It’s a believable reason for him to walk away from her.

Paris was a great catalyst for the break-up. She’s a confused, upset, abandoned teenager with a commonly surly attitude. She was perfect for spreading the gossip around the school and instigating Max’s decision.

And buried under all of this, was the utter perfection of Sookie asking out Jackson. Lorelai’s comments on Sookie’s lack of relationships felt natural and spurred the most perfect scene to date for the show (See Favorite Moment).

The Bad:
Unfortunately, we haven’t had the time to really get to know and connect to Max. He’s been very sporadic in his appearances and whenever he’s not around, Luke is there to fill the void. I feel sad for Lorelai’s obvious heartbreak, but it doesn’t touch me personally as a viewer.

It doesn’t help that Luke continues to be sweet and thoughtful (in his own way) in this episode. He takes Lorelai’s skates and offers to sharpen and polish them with no prompting on her part. This is the stuff that makes him seem so great to the audience. It’s hard to care about Max leaving when Luke is waiting on the sidelines.

Favorite Moment:
I don’t think any of our girls have been as sweet as Sookie asking out Jackson. Her soft voice, subtle tremor, and big, doe eyes were absolute perfection. And I loved Jackson’s thrown response. You don’t need big overdone emotions to have a perfectly heartfelt moment.

The Bottom Line:
This was a well-written and formulated episode, but it lacked heart. Max just hasn’t been around enough for me to care about his relationship with Lorelai. It’s easy to shrug it off and think, “There’s always, Luke!” 

Célèste's Review of S1E11 "Paris is Burning"

S1E11 "Paris is Burning"

“Paris is Burning”
Season 1, Episode 11
Original airing: January 11, 2001

My Rating: 60

The Good:
  • The scene between Lorelai and Sookie where Sookie calls Lorelai out on her pattern was good. It felt real very real but with touches of humor.
  • I also liked the zucchini-tush scene, and Sookie’s comment that Lorelai gets such good service, when Luke insists on tuning up Lorelai’s ice skates.
  • Sookie asking Jackson out was pretty much a perfect moment.
  • Sookie's dimples. Sookie totally stole this episode for me, and I don't think it's too much to give her dimples their own bullet point. 
  • In addition to Sookie, I also enjoyed the continuing development of Paris and her relationship to Rory. The scene where she keeps walking away and then stopping to tell Rory that she probably won’t want to talk was really funny and well performed by Liza Weil. So was the line, "How's the coleslaw? Good?" She has such a good was displaying her joy at others' misfortunes. It's so twisted. 
  • The cold open puppy scene is cute, but I’m not a big fan of cold opens that bare no relation to the rest of the episode. The only relationship here seemed to be that Lorelai is a total mess, a fact that’s a bit overplayed in the episode.
The Bad:
  • Speaking of which, I found Lorelai to be really annoying in the next scene where she’s eating like crazy while Max is cleaning up. Her kookiness is what we all love about her, but in some scenes it’s more annoying than cute. I think there’s a delicate balance of how quirky she needs to be in any given episode or scene, and sometimes the balance gets thrown off.
  • I liked seeing more developments in Lorealai’s relationship with Max, but it seems too soon for a breakup. Sookie says they’ve been going out for two months, but we’ve only seen their first date and the date at the beginning of this episode. I think the Lorelai/Max relationship is continually suffering from how disconnected it is from the rest of Lorelai’s life.

Favorite Moment:
Sookie asking Jackson out

The Bottom Line:
A pretty forgettable episode overall, but one with some good moments and intriguing developments

Monday, October 6, 2014

Podcast #11 - S1E10 - Forgiveness and Stuff

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Cordia's Review of S1E10 - Forgiveness and Stuff


Forgiveness and Stuff
Season 1, Episode 10
Original airing: December 21, 2000

My Rating: 66

The Good:
Much of this episode was spent in dealing with the fallout from Season 1, Episode 9 – Rory’s Dance. Rory and Lorelai are barely speaking, Emily and Lorelai are barely speaking, and it’s causing heartache all over town. I’m really glad this spilt over and was a significant presence in this week’s story. I also like how a lot of it was resolved by the larger threat of Richard’s collapse. It put things in perspective for all three of our Gilmore girls.

While it’s nice to see everyone apologizing and getting along, I do feel the show does a good job of showing that this doesn’t really fix everything the fight was about. Lorelai seems more willing to work on her relationship with her mother and father, but she’s still awkward around both of them. Lorelai’s still suspicious of Dean and will always feel protective of Rory. But at least we’re all back on speaking terms.

Luke was a significant part of the action this week and it was excellent. Scott Patterson who plays Luke and Lauren Graham who plays Lorelai have undeniable chemistry. Their scenes are a joy to watch as their interactions feel incredibly natural and appropriate. The show has been so inconsistent with Dean’s characterization, so it’s nice to have a consistent male presence who is presented in the same light to the audience as he is seen by the characters. We’ve picked up that Luke is interested in Lorelai and we’ve seen little things he does to think of her (such as bringing ice in S1E6), but this was a great showcase for just how far he’ll go for Lorelai. His instant insistence on taking her to the hospital and helping her once there was the epitome of the phrase “actions speak louder than words.”

It was wonderfully surprising to see Emily and Luke having a conversation. Her insight into his relationship with Lorelai is exactly what I want to say to him from the audience. And I love the tiny moment where Emily swoops Rory away to leave Lorelai and Luke alone after calling Luke an idiot for not dating Lorelai.

The Bad:
Dean continues to prove he’s an overconfident idiot. Having him sneaking around the house to see Rory when she’s told him to stay away makes him look really dumb. On top of that, it’s Friday night. He should know Rory would be at her grandparents’ house and not at home.

And, unfortunately, I was turned off by the strange lighting in the moment with Richard and Lorelai locking eyes. I like the idea that they don’t know what to say to each other, but can let some of their raw emotion play across their faces. However, the way it was shot felt like a soap opera to me, which was ultimately too distracting.

Favorite Moment:
Kelly Bishop nails it again as Emily Gilmore when she refuses to listen to Richard’s dying instructions. Her ever-so-slightly quivering lip when she demands to die first is so perfect I actually burst in to tears. Richard’s response shows just how well he knows his wife when he calmly agrees, then takes her hand and just looks at her. I love when we get a peek into the romantic side of this long-standing relationship.

The Bottom Line:

While I greatly enjoyed most of this episode, it just didn’t click for me overall. I can’t quite pinpoint it other than to say I don’t feel a need or desire to ever see it again. So while I’m giving it a good score and overall review, it doesn’t push over the top in my mind. Important for the story, but let’s move on now.

Célèste's Review of S1E10 "Forgiveness and Stuff"


“Forgiveness and Stuff”
Season 1, Episode 10
Original airing: December 21, 2000

My Rating: 72

The Good:
  • The show deals with the aftermath of the last episode well, incorporating Dean a little but focusing on the relationships between the three Gilmore girls.
  • Emily has some incredibly strong moments here, two of which were runners up for my favorite moment: her telling Luke he and Lorelai are idiots, and her demanding to die first. That whole scene between her and Richard is so perfect and really breathtaking.         
  • Rory’s reaction to Richard is nice also. I especially liked the moment when she tells Lorelai, “I was just getting to know him."
  • Lorelai’s avoidance of Richard seemed perfectly in character, if a bit overplayed in places, and the moment when she finally confronts him but is interrupted played perfectly. It’s nice that this show understands not everything can or should be resolved. Sometimes there are no words.
  • In addition to the family moments, this episode also spends a lot of time on Luke and Lorelai, which feels appropriate, since he seems almost like part of the family. I loved all the sweet moments between them from the Santa burger to the new baseball hat, and I loved that we got a much better sense of Luke than we’ve ever had before.

The Bad:
  • The opening scene could have set the stage better. From the way Lorelai and Rory were just looking at each other, it seemed like they weren’t talking at all, but then they left together and shared a few words, if brief ones.
  • The exact nature of their tenseness feels uneven later as well. Rory describes the tone of their house as “Miracle Worker,” but when Rory is asking Lorelai to come to the party, things don’t seem all that tense.
  • The scene in the gazebo where Lane is giving Rory advice about what to get Dean for Christmas seems like it’s setting up a conflict or a storyline that never gets developed. Couldn’t this time be better spent developing something relevant to this episode?
  • As nice as it is to see things developing between Luke and Lorelai, it's weird that Max keeps popping in and out of Lorelai's life, and that when he's gone, he's completely invisible. Luke saw Lorelai kissing him two episodes ago? What does he think of that? Has Lorelai mentioned that she's dating someone? The way that the existence of Max is completely omitted from episodes he doesn't appear in just strikes me as weird. 

Favorite Moment:
Luke can’t stop smiling when Lorelai says she thinks he looks good. Scott Patterson is just so cute here.

The Bottom Line:

A very good episode. A bit uneven in the beginning, but very good once the hospital scenes get going.