Thursday, May 18, 2017

Podcast #113 - S5E16 - So... Good Talk

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  1. I'm a little frustrated with the Lorelai/Luke reconciliation, because the show refuses to tell me why/how they reconciled, just as it didn't tell me exactly why they broke up in the first place.
    Luke is a pretty taciturn character, and that really works against the story. I still don't know why he thinks they broke up! Is it because he's threatened by Chris's presence in Lorelai's life? Because Lorelai's parents disapprove of him? Because he thinks Lorelai is still interested in Chris, or won't defend him against her parents? Which one of those things pushed him over the edge? Did he instantly regret the breakup and want to reconcile?

    For her part, Lorelai apparently thinks that their breakup was wholly caused by Emily, which I think lets Luke off the hook too much. Yes, Emily interfered, but Luke is a grown man, not an Emily-puppet. He made the decision to end it.

    And then we don't see anything between the kiss and hey, now they're back together. When Lorelai says, "Luke and I fixed it," I'm scratching my head because I didn't see them "fix" anything.

    If the whole story was just Evil Emily Causes Breakup, then Luke and Lorelai Remember They Love Each Other -- well, that's really boring. As shown to us, Emily is the prime mover in the entire storyline -- she's the one who acts; Luke and Lorelai just react to the things she does. And so even though the storyline is about Luke and Lorelai, Emily ends up being the most interesting character in it.

    It's frustrating because I do think there could be some interesting, character-specific stuff to explore here. Imagine, for example, if Emily had pulled this during the Max-Lorelai relationship. Max wouldn't have behaved exactly as Luke did here. Luke reacted the way he did because he is Luke.

    As for the Rory story: I will say this about Robert. He is clearly a terrible person, but at least he isn't boring.

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