Monday, October 27, 2014

Podcast #13 - S1E12 - Double Date

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Cordia's Review of S1E12 - Double Date

Slightly sneeky Rory is surprisingly adorable.
Double Date
Season 1, Episode 12
Original airing: January 18, 2001

My Rating: 54

The Good:
I think we all expected Sookie and Jackson’s first date to be a trial. The episode did a great job of making them both adorably awkward and nervous. And who hasn’t proposed a double date to try and prevent awkwardness and then have that double date make things so much worse? It was a pretty relatable storyline.

I really liked the pressure Sookie put on herself to make this date awesome. Asking Jackson out to a really fancy place and wearing her hair up in a very complicated (and likely uncomfortable) manner made her even more nervous. But she did what she thought she should do. And it was so nice to see them finally click after settling in at Luke’s and telling Rune to scram. The payoff was well worth the pain.

To make the scene even better, we get some great Lorelai and Luke interaction. Though I still have to wonder if Luke knows about Max, knows about the break up, or just figures Lorelai is fair game as long as there isn’t a ring on her finger. His eyeful of Lorelai and Max kissing in the snow (S1E8 Love & War & Snow) hasn’t cooled his amour at all.

Lane’s double date was possibly worse than Lorelai’s. Todd is pretty much sub-human in his presentation, as Lane describes him at the end of the episode. He has zero opinions about basically anything and I feel bad for Lane that she got in trouble over trying to spend time with such a waste of space. But her outlook is great at the end. At least now she can move on with her affections. I think Lane’s attitude is really good and underlies the moral lesson of being respectful of your parents. She lied to her mom and ended up on a terrible date AND got grounded. For shame.

Speaking of lying, there was a great B plot there with Lorelai and Rory. Rory’s been struggling with her honesty and openness for the entirety of her relationship with Dean. I think it was a very teenager thing to say “I’ll not tell you so you don’t have to lie to Lane’s mom. I’m a good daughter/friend!” Of course, it wasn’t the right answer, but it worked here.

I think Lane and Rory both really did understand they were making poor decisions, but they are teenagers. That’s basically their job. And I liked that they both owned their choices and took responsibility for them. It’s really a great example for young viewers.

The Bad:
This episode did a pretty amazing thing – it made me appreciate Dean as a boyfriend for Rory. He’s not into the matchmaking, but he does it to make Rory happy. During the date, he tries to get Rory to leave Lane and Todd alone so they can get to know each other. And after the date, he doesn’t rub the whole blow-up in Rory’s face. That’s pretty admirable, honestly.

But the best argument for Dean being decent is what the show put him up against. Todd and Rune are by far the most unlikable and irritating characters we’ve seen – including Tristan. Todd is a completely bland human being. I felt so bad for Lane when she was attempting to engage him in conversation. She hit the big three (books, movies, and music) and he had almost nothing to contribute. I don’t think they could have written a more boring teenage boy.

Rune was obviously the writers’ desire to drive the audience up a wall. From his first moment of introduction with that horrified, sneering look on his face to his attempt to get Jackson to blow off Sookie at the end of the date, Rune was a nightmare. It’s practically unbelievable that someone would think Lauren Graham is anything other than spectacularly gorgeous. I could get him being annoyed with her height, but comparing her to a bearded lady? That’s ridiculous.

The problem with Todd and Rune is they are completely unbelievable. Neither has a single redeeming characteristic that we get to see in the episode. They are so unbelievable that it’s impossible to take the storyline seriously. Could we not get people who just don’t click with Lorelai and Lane? Do they have to be moronic jerks? It went beyond entertaining and became irritating very quickly.

Favorite Moment:
I thought it was adorable when Rory kept turning her head around to try and oh-so-subtly spy on Lane and Todd. The shot of Dean turning her face forward again was great.

The Bottom Line:
It was great fun seeing Jackson and Sookie dance around each other, but the episode was completely spoiled by Todd and Rune. The characters were so unlikable and unrealistic that I just couldn't get in to the story. A little annoyance can go a long way.

Célèste's Review of S1E12 "Double Date"

S1E12 "Double Date"


Season 1, Episode 12
Original airing: January 18, 2001

My Rating: 61

The Good:
  •  It’s nice to spend some time with Lane and with Mrs. Kim. I like how fervent she is about the “you break, you buy” rule and how she and Lorelai agree they don’t want their daughters turning out like Lorelai.
  • Seeing Jackson and Sookie giggling in Luke’s is a nice moment. So is the moment when he first sees her all made up.
  • This is the closet we’ve gotten so far to Luke asking Lorelai out, and it’s kind of thrilling to watch.
  • The idea of a short unattractive guy being really turned off by Lorelai is unique and funny, though Rune gets tiresome pretty quickly. I like that Lorelai's ego is saved at the end when she says, "You know the one good thing we all learned from this? That I'm a babe."
The Bad:
  • The overall idea of both Gilmore girls going on double dates on the same night is a little much.
  • The Todd character is funny in moments but overdone in general
  • Ditto Rune. After the initial conceit was established, I just found him annoying, not particularly funny, and I didn’t like how long it took Jackson to stand up to him.
  • There are lots of logical lapses. That pashmina is not a substitute for a coat in January. Why did it take Rory and Lane until the second before they left to discuss not telling Lorelai, and why did it take her until the second after that to ask where they were going when they'd clearly been getting ready to go somewhere? Also, why do Todd and Land have another couple standing between them and Rory and Dean in the line at the movie theatre?
  • The whole going to a French restaurant and then leaving plot is too complicated, and Sookie is a little too frazzled. I like the idea of this whole plot line, but the execution fell short in several places for me. 
Favorite Moment:
Lorelai rants about legs and arms

The Bottom Line:
With all the other great episodes available, this isn't one I'd choose to rewatch. 

Monday, October 13, 2014

Podcast #12 - S1E11 - Paris is Burning

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I know this is what all my break ups look like...
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Cordia's Review of S1E11 - Paris is Burning

Paris is Burning
Season 1, Episode 11
Original airing: January 11, 2001


My Rating: 56

The Good:
This is a well plotted episode. I think it works really well to have Lorelai panic about her relationship and Max realize how unfeasible it is for his chosen profession and current job.

We can presume that Lorelai has not had any truly serious relationships in at least 16 years, so I find it very believable that she would panic when she started to feel too happy. Sookie’s comments hit the nail on the head, but support the overall idea really well.

It’s a poor decision by Lorelai to have the break up conversation in the classroom at Parent’s Day, but I think it suits Lorelai’s state of mind. I know when I’ve been on the verge of a break up, my thought processes are not at their most logical.

The scene in the classroom was very well done. Max is true to his character by trying to actually understand what’s happening and thinking it’s Lorelai being indecisive again (as she’s been their entire relationship). But his final realization that it is a truly poor choice for him to date a student’s parent was long overdue. It’s a believable reason for him to walk away from her.

Paris was a great catalyst for the break-up. She’s a confused, upset, abandoned teenager with a commonly surly attitude. She was perfect for spreading the gossip around the school and instigating Max’s decision.

And buried under all of this, was the utter perfection of Sookie asking out Jackson. Lorelai’s comments on Sookie’s lack of relationships felt natural and spurred the most perfect scene to date for the show (See Favorite Moment).

The Bad:
Unfortunately, we haven’t had the time to really get to know and connect to Max. He’s been very sporadic in his appearances and whenever he’s not around, Luke is there to fill the void. I feel sad for Lorelai’s obvious heartbreak, but it doesn’t touch me personally as a viewer.

It doesn’t help that Luke continues to be sweet and thoughtful (in his own way) in this episode. He takes Lorelai’s skates and offers to sharpen and polish them with no prompting on her part. This is the stuff that makes him seem so great to the audience. It’s hard to care about Max leaving when Luke is waiting on the sidelines.

Favorite Moment:
I don’t think any of our girls have been as sweet as Sookie asking out Jackson. Her soft voice, subtle tremor, and big, doe eyes were absolute perfection. And I loved Jackson’s thrown response. You don’t need big overdone emotions to have a perfectly heartfelt moment.

The Bottom Line:
This was a well-written and formulated episode, but it lacked heart. Max just hasn’t been around enough for me to care about his relationship with Lorelai. It’s easy to shrug it off and think, “There’s always, Luke!” 

Célèste's Review of S1E11 "Paris is Burning"

S1E11 "Paris is Burning"

“Paris is Burning”
Season 1, Episode 11
Original airing: January 11, 2001

My Rating: 60

The Good:
  • The scene between Lorelai and Sookie where Sookie calls Lorelai out on her pattern was good. It felt real very real but with touches of humor.
  • I also liked the zucchini-tush scene, and Sookie’s comment that Lorelai gets such good service, when Luke insists on tuning up Lorelai’s ice skates.
  • Sookie asking Jackson out was pretty much a perfect moment.
  • Sookie's dimples. Sookie totally stole this episode for me, and I don't think it's too much to give her dimples their own bullet point. 
  • In addition to Sookie, I also enjoyed the continuing development of Paris and her relationship to Rory. The scene where she keeps walking away and then stopping to tell Rory that she probably won’t want to talk was really funny and well performed by Liza Weil. So was the line, "How's the coleslaw? Good?" She has such a good was displaying her joy at others' misfortunes. It's so twisted. 
  • The cold open puppy scene is cute, but I’m not a big fan of cold opens that bare no relation to the rest of the episode. The only relationship here seemed to be that Lorelai is a total mess, a fact that’s a bit overplayed in the episode.
The Bad:
  • Speaking of which, I found Lorelai to be really annoying in the next scene where she’s eating like crazy while Max is cleaning up. Her kookiness is what we all love about her, but in some scenes it’s more annoying than cute. I think there’s a delicate balance of how quirky she needs to be in any given episode or scene, and sometimes the balance gets thrown off.
  • I liked seeing more developments in Lorealai’s relationship with Max, but it seems too soon for a breakup. Sookie says they’ve been going out for two months, but we’ve only seen their first date and the date at the beginning of this episode. I think the Lorelai/Max relationship is continually suffering from how disconnected it is from the rest of Lorelai’s life.

Favorite Moment:
Sookie asking Jackson out

The Bottom Line:
A pretty forgettable episode overall, but one with some good moments and intriguing developments

Monday, October 6, 2014

Podcast #11 - S1E10 - Forgiveness and Stuff

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